EvgeniZyntx wrote: » Fascinating thread of ad hominems, red herrings and fallacious arguments. On one side we have busy bodies, snitches, too many cooks and on the other negligent and abusive parents.
CSARdiver wrote: » Schools should intervene if and when it affects performance. Therein lies the problem - the school system is not setup to base upon performance any longer.
BinkyBonk wrote: » Mr_Knight wrote: » JPW1990 wrote: » You feel the item that could put the child into cardiac arrest on the playground is of less importance? The odds of a kid going into cardiac arrest from a car accident on the way to school are higher than from drinking a Red Bull. Perhaps cardiac arrest is slightly over exaggerated, but we all agree it's not okay to give Red Bull to a young child. Also, on the way to school the child is in the care of a parent/ guardian. Once the child is at school, they become the responsibility of the caregivers there, being the teachers. I guess that's the whole point here.
Mr_Knight wrote: » JPW1990 wrote: » You feel the item that could put the child into cardiac arrest on the playground is of less importance? The odds of a kid going into cardiac arrest from a car accident on the way to school are higher than from drinking a Red Bull.
JPW1990 wrote: » You feel the item that could put the child into cardiac arrest on the playground is of less importance?
Zaftique wrote: » JoRocka wrote: » skinnyinnotime wrote: » The school should have a policy on what foods are allowed to be eaten there. If a child isn't fed a nutrional diet it is neglect. you can tell an entire child's diet from ONE bag of doritos and ONE can of red bull? I'm impressed- can you tell me the lotto numbers for next week too? PS- don't look at my weekend. It pretty much looks like I straight up had a weekend fling affair with the Debil. You know- because Sugar = Debil. Man.. the number of times I gave away my 'healthy' food in order to buy ice cream sandwiches for lunch... Super glad I wasn't living now, where my parents would be hauled away for perceived neglect. ^_^ Still managed to win a lot of track & field medals, guess that 'junk food' wasn't making much of a dent in my health.
JoRocka wrote: » skinnyinnotime wrote: » The school should have a policy on what foods are allowed to be eaten there. If a child isn't fed a nutrional diet it is neglect. you can tell an entire child's diet from ONE bag of doritos and ONE can of red bull? I'm impressed- can you tell me the lotto numbers for next week too? PS- don't look at my weekend. It pretty much looks like I straight up had a weekend fling affair with the Debil. You know- because Sugar = Debil.
skinnyinnotime wrote: » The school should have a policy on what foods are allowed to be eaten there. If a child isn't fed a nutrional diet it is neglect.
JoRocka wrote: » jorinya wrote: » draznyth wrote: » However, none of the above has anything to do with someone stepping in and parenting other people's children for them. It's nunya. Take care of your own kids. Excuse me but I do take care of my kids and some that don't have food to eat. I take care of their parents too. Where I am the people still believe that it takes a community to raise a child. I share my food with the less privileged so as not to waste it. I give water to those I see nearby who are thirsty and don't have any money to buy for themselves. I am no Mother Theresa but I try my best to help out especially with the kids in the school my kids attend. Sometimes other parents need a hand sometime and helping is not illegal, that's why there are social workers and councillors. do you find the wind messes up your hair at that altitude?
jorinya wrote: » draznyth wrote: » However, none of the above has anything to do with someone stepping in and parenting other people's children for them. It's nunya. Take care of your own kids. Excuse me but I do take care of my kids and some that don't have food to eat. I take care of their parents too. Where I am the people still believe that it takes a community to raise a child. I share my food with the less privileged so as not to waste it. I give water to those I see nearby who are thirsty and don't have any money to buy for themselves. I am no Mother Theresa but I try my best to help out especially with the kids in the school my kids attend. Sometimes other parents need a hand sometime and helping is not illegal, that's why there are social workers and councillors.
draznyth wrote: » However, none of the above has anything to do with someone stepping in and parenting other people's children for them. It's nunya. Take care of your own kids.
draznyth wrote: » EvgeniZyntx wrote: » Fascinating thread of ad hominems, red herrings and fallacious arguments. On one side we have busy bodies, snitches, too many cooks and on the other negligent and abusive parents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
veganbettie wrote: » i'm surprised that the energy drink is allowed at an elementary school and frankly that bothers me.... Here we aren't even allowed soda at schools (but for some reason high sugar "fake" juices are allowed).... I think elementary and middle schools should be monitored pretty closely as far as what food and drinks are allowed, then once high school comes around let the kids start to figure it out and put what we've taught them to the test. I'm in the camp of who cares about the doritos, the energy drink would make me very uncomfortable.
JPW1990 wrote: » veganbettie wrote: » i'm surprised that the energy drink is allowed at an elementary school and frankly that bothers me.... Here we aren't even allowed soda at schools (but for some reason high sugar "fake" juices are allowed).... I think elementary and middle schools should be monitored pretty closely as far as what food and drinks are allowed, then once high school comes around let the kids start to figure it out and put what we've taught them to the test. I'm in the camp of who cares about the doritos, the energy drink would make me very uncomfortable. It does make me question whether this question was intentionally invented to make people reply due to the energy drink, but then be attacked for playing food police over doritos. It's too convenient. Doritos and Pepsi, probably a lot less people would care.
JoRocka wrote: » MKEgal wrote: » randomtai wrote: This is why I want to home school my children. Too many busy body (sic) people. You mean, people who are concerned that a child doesn't have adequate supervision & education, is consistently eating junk instead of a nutritious breakfast, and is having a drink which could cause serious health problems? That's not being a busybody, that's showing concern for the child. More people need to do it. you're one of those people who call police every time you see a child in the car alone don't you? Mom's going to do jail time for "neglect" or labelled as negligent offenders because they ran inside rite aid to get toilet paper while their child who hasn't slept all day is finally asleep in the car. not every case is one of "concern for the child" it really is being a busy body.
MKEgal wrote: » randomtai wrote: This is why I want to home school my children. Too many busy body (sic) people. You mean, people who are concerned that a child doesn't have adequate supervision & education, is consistently eating junk instead of a nutritious breakfast, and is having a drink which could cause serious health problems? That's not being a busybody, that's showing concern for the child. More people need to do it.
randomtai wrote: This is why I want to home school my children. Too many busy body (sic) people.
Michael190lbs wrote: » JoRocka wrote: » MKEgal wrote: » randomtai wrote: This is why I want to home school my children. Too many busy body (sic) people. You mean, people who are concerned that a child doesn't have adequate supervision & education, is consistently eating junk instead of a nutritious breakfast, and is having a drink which could cause serious health problems? That's not being a busybody, that's showing concern for the child. More people need to do it. you're one of those people who call police every time you see a child in the car alone don't you? Mom's going to do jail time for "neglect" or labelled as negligent offenders because they ran inside rite aid to get toilet paper while their child who hasn't slept all day is finally asleep in the car. not every case is one of "concern for the child" it really is being a busy body. Why do police have so much power they only go to school for six months yet screw up so many lives with a simple ticket or arrest often times for BS!! I think their power hungry no one pulled over should get out of a ticket its not their job at that point. They saw a crime and should ticket not play judge jury and prosecuter on the side of the road to satisfy some perceived power they have given themselves?? WTF. I use to support the police but now creating traffic jams to stop everyone just to check if u have a license F-Them this is my city and I Vote!!
janjunie wrote: » softblondechick wrote: » Don't do it. And don't judge. At least this kid has food. She probably packs her own food, from what is in the home. I doubt anyone packs her lunch, or even pays much attention to her. Some kids just survive childhood. That is so sad, so if the parents don't care the teacher shouldn't either?
softblondechick wrote: » Don't do it. And don't judge. At least this kid has food. She probably packs her own food, from what is in the home. I doubt anyone packs her lunch, or even pays much attention to her. Some kids just survive childhood.
softblondechick wrote: » We don't know. The worst thing is to create defensive environment with parents. If food problems are an issue, it should be referred to social work and the school nurse to review and approach a parent. My job is to teach, not be the "food police".
