DeguelloTex wrote: » My diet isn't that far from paleo, but I'd just as soon be fat and die early as give up tortillas and ice cream so I'll never be willing to close that gap.
miriamtob wrote: » Isn't exercise just helping create a calorie deficit too? Why bash someone just because someone said eating a certain way was part of their journey to weight loss? Several people on here are making it sound like there is just one right answer. The math may be the same for all, but journey most certainly is not.
mamapeach910 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. The thing is... No WOE guarantees that you're going to lose weight. I ate paleo before Cordain wrote the book on it and didn't lose weight. Neanderthin came out in the '90's, and that's what I followed. Why didn't I lose weight? I ate too many nuts and too much avocado. Simple. Too many calories, no weight loss. So, you can bang the drum all day about your "secret", but that's not what's really doing it for you. It might be a naturally satiating group of foods for you, and if it is? Great. But make no mistake, you're simply creating a calorie deficit. So in other words, the poster finds it easy to maintain a calorie deficit by following the paleo WOE – that's useful information. Constantly banging on about how all you need to do is have a calorie deficit isn't doing any more than stating the obvious. Everyone knows that, but clearly not everyone finds it easy to do (hence the need for sites like this) and following certain food plans helps some people to achieve it. Personally I'm finding it much easier to create a calorie deficit on a low-carb diet. I feel more full and am not tempted to binge on sugary crap. the point is paleo is totally unnecessary for anything, and is totally ridiculous because no one really eats how people did 10,000 years ago ... ETA - as paleo is totally unnecessary for weight loss it is not a "secret" for losing weight ... Exactly. It's just one way some people find of creating a deficit. So is low carb. It's not a weight loss "secret". The deficit created is. PS... the problem you all have with binging on sugar? That's a BEHAVIORAL issue. Stop blaming the food. You can pull out all the dopamine blah blah blah you want, but until we see people compulsively raiding pet stores to pet puppies, I'll stick with the idea that you can get control of your impulse to eat hyper-palatable foods simply because they're tasty and learn to eat them in moderation. OR not. If that's your choice. But it's not the food's fault... it's yours.
ndj1979 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. The thing is... No WOE guarantees that you're going to lose weight. I ate paleo before Cordain wrote the book on it and didn't lose weight. Neanderthin came out in the '90's, and that's what I followed. Why didn't I lose weight? I ate too many nuts and too much avocado. Simple. Too many calories, no weight loss. So, you can bang the drum all day about your "secret", but that's not what's really doing it for you. It might be a naturally satiating group of foods for you, and if it is? Great. But make no mistake, you're simply creating a calorie deficit. So in other words, the poster finds it easy to maintain a calorie deficit by following the paleo WOE – that's useful information. Constantly banging on about how all you need to do is have a calorie deficit isn't doing any more than stating the obvious. Everyone knows that, but clearly not everyone finds it easy to do (hence the need for sites like this) and following certain food plans helps some people to achieve it. Personally I'm finding it much easier to create a calorie deficit on a low-carb diet. I feel more full and am not tempted to binge on sugary crap. the point is paleo is totally unnecessary for anything, and is totally ridiculous because no one really eats how people did 10,000 years ago ... ETA - as paleo is totally unnecessary for weight loss it is not a "secret" for losing weight ...
Chrysalid2014 wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. The thing is... No WOE guarantees that you're going to lose weight. I ate paleo before Cordain wrote the book on it and didn't lose weight. Neanderthin came out in the '90's, and that's what I followed. Why didn't I lose weight? I ate too many nuts and too much avocado. Simple. Too many calories, no weight loss. So, you can bang the drum all day about your "secret", but that's not what's really doing it for you. It might be a naturally satiating group of foods for you, and if it is? Great. But make no mistake, you're simply creating a calorie deficit. So in other words, the poster finds it easy to maintain a calorie deficit by following the paleo WOE – that's useful information. Constantly banging on about how all you need to do is have a calorie deficit isn't doing any more than stating the obvious. Everyone knows that, but clearly not everyone finds it easy to do (hence the need for sites like this) and following certain food plans helps some people to achieve it. Personally I'm finding it much easier to create a calorie deficit on a low-carb diet. I feel more full and am not tempted to binge on sugary crap.
mamapeach910 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. The thing is... No WOE guarantees that you're going to lose weight. I ate paleo before Cordain wrote the book on it and didn't lose weight. Neanderthin came out in the '90's, and that's what I followed. Why didn't I lose weight? I ate too many nuts and too much avocado. Simple. Too many calories, no weight loss. So, you can bang the drum all day about your "secret", but that's not what's really doing it for you. It might be a naturally satiating group of foods for you, and if it is? Great. But make no mistake, you're simply creating a calorie deficit.
miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks.
kvanae wrote: » Tell me what has been successful for you on your weight loss journey!!
miriamtob wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. The thing is... No WOE guarantees that you're going to lose weight. I ate paleo before Cordain wrote the book on it and didn't lose weight. Neanderthin came out in the '90's, and that's what I followed. Why didn't I lose weight? I ate too many nuts and too much avocado. Simple. Too many calories, no weight loss. So, you can bang the drum all day about your "secret", but that's not what's really doing it for you. It might be a naturally satiating group of foods for you, and if it is? Great. But make no mistake, you're simply creating a calorie deficit. So in other words, the poster finds it easy to maintain a calorie deficit by following the paleo WOE – that's useful information. Constantly banging on about how all you need to do is have a calorie deficit isn't doing any more than stating the obvious. Everyone knows that, but clearly not everyone finds it easy to do (hence the need for sites like this) and following certain food plans helps some people to achieve it. Personally I'm finding it much easier to create a calorie deficit on a low-carb diet. I feel more full and am not tempted to binge on sugary crap. the point is paleo is totally unnecessary for anything, and is totally ridiculous because no one really eats how people did 10,000 years ago ... ETA - as paleo is totally unnecessary for weight loss it is not a "secret" for losing weight ... Exactly. It's just one way some people find of creating a deficit. So is low carb. It's not a weight loss "secret". The deficit created is. PS... the problem you all have with binging on sugar? That's a BEHAVIORAL issue. Stop blaming the food. You can pull out all the dopamine blah blah blah you want, but until we see people compulsively raiding pet stores to pet puppies, I'll stick with the idea that you can get control of your impulse to eat hyper-palatable foods simply because they're tasty and learn to eat them in moderation. OR not. If that's your choice. But it's not the food's fault... it's yours. Blaming someone for having a mental illness is just as nasty and judgmental as blaming someone for having any other physical illness. You don't think genetics, hormones, and chemistry play into afflictions affecting the mind? Is the brain somehow separate from all other organ systems?
jorinya wrote: » Never listening to that little voice still saying "You are fat and will stay that way forever". Not beating myself up when I stumble, be it eating outside what I have committed to eat or not exercising enough. Not listening to those around me who have negative comments to say even though I am really losing weight and getting fitter, leaner, healthier and looking younger and fresher. Biggest secret of all. My MFP friends, my group of gals and you guys here in the main forums. Learning from those who have already finished the race and are maintaining.
DeguelloTex wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. The thing is... No WOE guarantees that you're going to lose weight. I ate paleo before Cordain wrote the book on it and didn't lose weight. Neanderthin came out in the '90's, and that's what I followed. Why didn't I lose weight? I ate too many nuts and too much avocado. Simple. Too many calories, no weight loss. So, you can bang the drum all day about your "secret", but that's not what's really doing it for you. It might be a naturally satiating group of foods for you, and if it is? Great. But make no mistake, you're simply creating a calorie deficit. So in other words, the poster finds it easy to maintain a calorie deficit by following the paleo WOE – that's useful information. Constantly banging on about how all you need to do is have a calorie deficit isn't doing any more than stating the obvious. Everyone knows that, but clearly not everyone finds it easy to do (hence the need for sites like this) and following certain food plans helps some people to achieve it. Personally I'm finding it much easier to create a calorie deficit on a low-carb diet. I feel more full and am not tempted to binge on sugary crap. the point is paleo is totally unnecessary for anything, and is totally ridiculous because no one really eats how people did 10,000 years ago ... ETA - as paleo is totally unnecessary for weight loss it is not a "secret" for losing weight ... Exactly. It's just one way some people find of creating a deficit. So is low carb. It's not a weight loss "secret". The deficit created is. PS... the problem you all have with binging on sugar? That's a BEHAVIORAL issue. Stop blaming the food. You can pull out all the dopamine blah blah blah you want, but until we see people compulsively raiding pet stores to pet puppies, I'll stick with the idea that you can get control of your impulse to eat hyper-palatable foods simply because they're tasty and learn to eat them in moderation. OR not. If that's your choice. But it's not the food's fault... it's yours. Blaming someone for having a mental illness is just as nasty and judgmental as blaming someone for having any other physical illness. You don't think genetics, hormones, and chemistry play into afflictions affecting the mind? Is the brain somehow separate from all other organ systems? You should look into "begging the question" then stop doing it.
miriamtob wrote: » DeguelloTex wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » mamapeach910 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. The thing is... No WOE guarantees that you're going to lose weight. I ate paleo before Cordain wrote the book on it and didn't lose weight. Neanderthin came out in the '90's, and that's what I followed. Why didn't I lose weight? I ate too many nuts and too much avocado. Simple. Too many calories, no weight loss. So, you can bang the drum all day about your "secret", but that's not what's really doing it for you. It might be a naturally satiating group of foods for you, and if it is? Great. But make no mistake, you're simply creating a calorie deficit. So in other words, the poster finds it easy to maintain a calorie deficit by following the paleo WOE – that's useful information. Constantly banging on about how all you need to do is have a calorie deficit isn't doing any more than stating the obvious. Everyone knows that, but clearly not everyone finds it easy to do (hence the need for sites like this) and following certain food plans helps some people to achieve it. Personally I'm finding it much easier to create a calorie deficit on a low-carb diet. I feel more full and am not tempted to binge on sugary crap. the point is paleo is totally unnecessary for anything, and is totally ridiculous because no one really eats how people did 10,000 years ago ... ETA - as paleo is totally unnecessary for weight loss it is not a "secret" for losing weight ... Exactly. It's just one way some people find of creating a deficit. So is low carb. It's not a weight loss "secret". The deficit created is. PS... the problem you all have with binging on sugar? That's a BEHAVIORAL issue. Stop blaming the food. You can pull out all the dopamine blah blah blah you want, but until we see people compulsively raiding pet stores to pet puppies, I'll stick with the idea that you can get control of your impulse to eat hyper-palatable foods simply because they're tasty and learn to eat them in moderation. OR not. If that's your choice. But it's not the food's fault... it's yours. Blaming someone for having a mental illness is just as nasty and judgmental as blaming someone for having any other physical illness. You don't think genetics, hormones, and chemistry play into afflictions affecting the mind? Is the brain somehow separate from all other organ systems? You should look into "begging the question" then stop doing it. I'm not the one doing it.
miriamtob wrote: » Isn't exercise just helping create a calorie deficit too? Why bash someone just because she said eating a certain way was part of their journey to weight loss? Several people on here are making it sound like there is just one right answer. The math may be the same for all, but journey most certainly is not.
miriamtob wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Isn't exercise just helping create a calorie deficit too? Why bash someone just because she said eating a certain way was part of their journey to weight loss? Several people on here are making it sound like there is just one right answer. The math may be the same for all, but journey most certainly is not. Sexystef, why don't you answer my second question here?
ndj1979 wrote: » erickirb wrote: » Here is Paleo poster's diet yesterday: Not that I am an expert on Paleo, but some of this stuff has milk, and is processed so can't be Paleo: Breakfast Organic - 2 Jumbo Eggs, 2 eggs jumbo Teas' Tea - Jasmine Green Tea (Unsweetened), 8 oz (240ml) would this be Paleo? Lunch Acac - Muscle up, no way this is Paleo???? Dinner Slow Cooker (or not) Ham & Veggie Soup from Cook Smarts, 1.25 serving(s) Ham would not be Paleo (cured) Snacks Generic - 5 Baby Carrots, Raw, 5 baby cut sticks Hershey's Hugs - Milk Chocolate Kisses Hugged In White Creme, Not even close to Paleo Strawberry - Strawberry, 2 med Turkey breast meat, 1 serving This may be Paleo if it is not processed mechanically separated turkey Hmmmm Paleolithic people had slow cookers????
erickirb wrote: » Here is Paleo poster's diet yesterday: Not that I am an expert on Paleo, but some of this stuff has milk, and is processed so can't be Paleo: Breakfast Organic - 2 Jumbo Eggs, 2 eggs jumbo Teas' Tea - Jasmine Green Tea (Unsweetened), 8 oz (240ml) would this be Paleo? Lunch Acac - Muscle up, no way this is Paleo???? Dinner Slow Cooker (or not) Ham & Veggie Soup from Cook Smarts, 1.25 serving(s) Ham would not be Paleo (cured) Snacks Generic - 5 Baby Carrots, Raw, 5 baby cut sticks Hershey's Hugs - Milk Chocolate Kisses Hugged In White Creme, Not even close to Paleo Strawberry - Strawberry, 2 med Turkey breast meat, 1 serving This may be Paleo if it is not processed mechanically separated turkey
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SconnieCat wrote: » I will say that the one good thing I learned from the Paleo diet is that I love "Paleo" margaritas! For me, it's Don Julio a splash of soda and fresh squeezed lime.
