enterdanger wrote: » Not everyone's relationship dynamic is the same. Think about the couples you might know where one is more dominant and the other of the pair more submissive and it works. I'm not talking 50 shades of grey stuff here people. My grandparents were like that and open, honest communication would make them laugh. Their marriage worked for them. Yes, ultimately OP's husband decides what goes in his body. But when I put myself in her shoes I'd be damned if I let the father of my children think he could endanger his health that way. None of us are getting out of here alive, but I need him to be around for a long time. I would nag, cajole, bribe, do whatever I needed to do light a weight loss fire under his *kitten*.
APeacefulWarrior wrote: » Hubby and I had "the discussion" about eating more sensibly and healthier, and less junk food, etc, etc, etc, this weekend. (He has more weight to lose than I do.) Thought we were on the same page, until he came home from the grocery store this evening with four bags of Oreos, chocolate ice cream, eight pounds of pork sausage patties, and a supersize bag of generic Reese's pieces cereal. I'm not even sure we're in the same book, much less on the same page. How do you handle these situations??
APeacefulWarrior wrote: » I don't know... around his WLS, I made sure I supported him... we're supposed to be in this together, and I hate knowing I'm in it alone, I guess.
TahoeSki wrote: » No, he's not ready. But that wouldn't stop me from picking up the bag of Oreos and saying WTF! It's really not fair to you to have all that crap in the house.
MrM27 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » kimondo666 wrote: » Try to persuade him if he has sweettooth that he eats raw fruit, and not zero nutrient refined sugar in sweets. Bananas are a whole lot better, or apples. Even dried fruits are much better. i fail to see the correlation between a sweet tooth and eating raw foods….. Er... raw fruit is sweet..(?) ndj1979 wrote: » and source of sugar does not matter... I read something yesterday about why fruit sugar is "better" than added sugar in other carbohydrate-loaded foods. Apparently the digestion of sugar requires certain micronutrients that are also delivered in fresh fruit. However, if you eat (for example) a candy bar, it doesn't contain any of the vitamins required to digest it, so essentially by eating the candy bar you're dipping into (depleting) your reserve of micronutrients. So, the logic that you can get your day's nutrition and then spend any 'leftover' calories on junk without detriment to your health is somewhat flawed... 3rd request for a link to the article you are saying you read. APeacefulWarrior wrote: » Just a morning update - I'll be reading through all the responses through the day,.. all four packages of Oreos have been opened and at least 2 cookies are gone from each. The packages will be finished within a week, I'm guessing. As for addictions - food can be just as deadly an addiction as drugs, if not more so because you can't give it up completely like drugs or alcohol. Not our first discussion by far - in fact he has gone to drastic extremes (WLS) which failed because he believed his gastric band would fix everything with no effort on his part. Age does make a difference - the body does not recover as well from stressors and is much more prone to serious effects. So, to those of you in your 20s and 30s - make changes now. It will be much harder to lose it later. I'll be back after work - keep this discussion rolling... Did you ask him why he opened 4 different packages?
Chrysalid2014 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » kimondo666 wrote: » Try to persuade him if he has sweettooth that he eats raw fruit, and not zero nutrient refined sugar in sweets. Bananas are a whole lot better, or apples. Even dried fruits are much better. i fail to see the correlation between a sweet tooth and eating raw foods….. Er... raw fruit is sweet..(?) ndj1979 wrote: » and source of sugar does not matter... I read something yesterday about why fruit sugar is "better" than added sugar in other carbohydrate-loaded foods. Apparently the digestion of sugar requires certain micronutrients that are also delivered in fresh fruit. However, if you eat (for example) a candy bar, it doesn't contain any of the vitamins required to digest it, so essentially by eating the candy bar you're dipping into (depleting) your reserve of micronutrients. So, the logic that you can get your day's nutrition and then spend any 'leftover' calories on junk without detriment to your health is somewhat flawed...
ndj1979 wrote: » kimondo666 wrote: » Try to persuade him if he has sweettooth that he eats raw fruit, and not zero nutrient refined sugar in sweets. Bananas are a whole lot better, or apples. Even dried fruits are much better. i fail to see the correlation between a sweet tooth and eating raw foods…..
kimondo666 wrote: » Try to persuade him if he has sweettooth that he eats raw fruit, and not zero nutrient refined sugar in sweets. Bananas are a whole lot better, or apples. Even dried fruits are much better.
ndj1979 wrote: » and source of sugar does not matter...
APeacefulWarrior wrote: » Just a morning update - I'll be reading through all the responses through the day,.. all four packages of Oreos have been opened and at least 2 cookies are gone from each. The packages will be finished within a week, I'm guessing. As for addictions - food can be just as deadly an addiction as drugs, if not more so because you can't give it up completely like drugs or alcohol. Not our first discussion by far - in fact he has gone to drastic extremes (WLS) which failed because he believed his gastric band would fix everything with no effort on his part. Age does make a difference - the body does not recover as well from stressors and is much more prone to serious effects. So, to those of you in your 20s and 30s - make changes now. It will be much harder to lose it later. I'll be back after work - keep this discussion rolling...
jofjltncb6 wrote: » MrM27 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » kimondo666 wrote: » Try to persuade him if he has sweettooth that he eats raw fruit, and not zero nutrient refined sugar in sweets. Bananas are a whole lot better, or apples. Even dried fruits are much better. i fail to see the correlation between a sweet tooth and eating raw foods….. Er... raw fruit is sweet..(?) ndj1979 wrote: » and source of sugar does not matter... I read something yesterday about why fruit sugar is "better" than added sugar in other carbohydrate-loaded foods. Apparently the digestion of sugar requires certain micronutrients that are also delivered in fresh fruit. However, if you eat (for example) a candy bar, it doesn't contain any of the vitamins required to digest it, so essentially by eating the candy bar you're dipping into (depleting) your reserve of micronutrients. So, the logic that you can get your day's nutrition and then spend any 'leftover' calories on junk without detriment to your health is somewhat flawed... 3rd request for a link to the article you are saying you read. APeacefulWarrior wrote: » Just a morning update - I'll be reading through all the responses through the day,.. all four packages of Oreos have been opened and at least 2 cookies are gone from each. The packages will be finished within a week, I'm guessing. As for addictions - food can be just as deadly an addiction as drugs, if not more so because you can't give it up completely like drugs or alcohol. Not our first discussion by far - in fact he has gone to drastic extremes (WLS) which failed because he believed his gastric band would fix everything with no effort on his part. Age does make a difference - the body does not recover as well from stressors and is much more prone to serious effects. So, to those of you in your 20s and 30s - make changes now. It will be much harder to lose it later. I'll be back after work - keep this discussion rolling... Did you ask him why he opened 4 different packages? This is the greatest problem I've read so far in this thread. That is crazy talk. If there's going to be an intervention, it should be for this egregious violation.
TimothyFish wrote: » snickerscharlie wrote: » TimothyFish wrote: » I assume that your husband has no intention of eating all that at one time. There is a big difference between having it in the house and having it in your stomach. And I assume that the OP's husband isn't living in an underground bunker where he won't see the light of day or a grocery store for another month or two. Someone who deliberately purchases that amount of crap in one go probably plans to binge on it. *Four* bags of Oreos is a bit excessive. Unless all that stuff was on a big, big sale or something. Like bogo. Why would you assume that? I bought two packages of Oreos two weeks ago. I bought two packages of lemon cookies last weekend. I also bought two half gallons of ice cream. I haven't binged on any of it yet. In fact, I still have most of it, along with five packages of cookie dough mix, two cake mixes with icing, and three tubes of Pringles. Not to mention three boxes of cereal that I haven't opened. If having it in the house equals binging, I'm in big trouble. I'm especially worried about those two packages of trail mix I bought. Oh, what a world, what world. What am I going to do?
snickerscharlie wrote: » TimothyFish wrote: » I assume that your husband has no intention of eating all that at one time. There is a big difference between having it in the house and having it in your stomach. And I assume that the OP's husband isn't living in an underground bunker where he won't see the light of day or a grocery store for another month or two. Someone who deliberately purchases that amount of crap in one go probably plans to binge on it. *Four* bags of Oreos is a bit excessive. Unless all that stuff was on a big, big sale or something. Like bogo.
TimothyFish wrote: » I assume that your husband has no intention of eating all that at one time. There is a big difference between having it in the house and having it in your stomach.
reynolds3371 wrote: » He can eat all of that food in moderation by keeping it under his calorie count for the day and logging everything in
JustinAnimal wrote: » Nothing got me moving like seeing my wife lose weight while I got left in the dust and only gained. I agree with the lead by example sentiment. It might take a month, but when he sees how excited you are for your weight loss, I imagine he'll drop the junk and start moving his body.
draznyth wrote: » jofjltncb6 wrote: » MrM27 wrote: » Chrysalid2014 wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » kimondo666 wrote: » Try to persuade him if he has sweettooth that he eats raw fruit, and not zero nutrient refined sugar in sweets. Bananas are a whole lot better, or apples. Even dried fruits are much better. i fail to see the correlation between a sweet tooth and eating raw foods….. Er... raw fruit is sweet..(?) ndj1979 wrote: » and source of sugar does not matter... I read something yesterday about why fruit sugar is "better" than added sugar in other carbohydrate-loaded foods. Apparently the digestion of sugar requires certain micronutrients that are also delivered in fresh fruit. However, if you eat (for example) a candy bar, it doesn't contain any of the vitamins required to digest it, so essentially by eating the candy bar you're dipping into (depleting) your reserve of micronutrients. So, the logic that you can get your day's nutrition and then spend any 'leftover' calories on junk without detriment to your health is somewhat flawed... 3rd request for a link to the article you are saying you read. APeacefulWarrior wrote: » Just a morning update - I'll be reading through all the responses through the day,.. all four packages of Oreos have been opened and at least 2 cookies are gone from each. The packages will be finished within a week, I'm guessing. As for addictions - food can be just as deadly an addiction as drugs, if not more so because you can't give it up completely like drugs or alcohol. Not our first discussion by far - in fact he has gone to drastic extremes (WLS) which failed because he believed his gastric band would fix everything with no effort on his part. Age does make a difference - the body does not recover as well from stressors and is much more prone to serious effects. So, to those of you in your 20s and 30s - make changes now. It will be much harder to lose it later. I'll be back after work - keep this discussion rolling... Did you ask him why he opened 4 different packages? This is the greatest problem I've read so far in this thread. That is crazy talk. If there's going to be an intervention, it should be for this egregious violation. Srs wtf are you gonna do with stale Oreos
mccindy72 wrote: » Yeah, darlin, you're getting torn up over there too. Check it out.
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jofjltncb6 wrote: » mccindy72 wrote: » Yeah, darlin, you're getting torn up over there too. Check it out. And... ...locked. 15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums Divisive topics and posts, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. ...because Church of Sugar is Poison.
mamapeach910 wrote: » jofjltncb6 wrote: » mccindy72 wrote: » Yeah, darlin, you're getting torn up over there too. Check it out. And... ...locked. 15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums Divisive topics and posts, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. ...because Church of Sugar is Poison. The thread was actually going fairly well too. There wasn't much flaming. Are they not going to let any conversation like that happen on the boards any more?
