CountryMom03 wrote: » TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » The op asked what our secret was, I answered what worked for me, didn't preach. I didn't even choose the lifestyle for weight loss; I had medical reasons, but weight loss was a very welcome side effect. So same as for us...your calorie deficit makes you lose weight. Not eating a specific diet as Paleo Not always true. The "style" of diet does play a factor when you consider that Paleo doesnt allow for any sort of "fake" or "artificial" ingredients. I was on a more reg Americanized diet with calorie deficit and only lost a few lbs, then ended up starting to gain more. I finally figured out if I wanted my weight fixed, I needed to fix the inside of my body, their cells, blood, organs, etc Then the weight would take care of itself. Some people can successfully loose weight with a reg diet, or any diet out there, but that doesnt mean that anyone can. Everyones bodies are diff and what works for some doesnt always work for the next.
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » The op asked what our secret was, I answered what worked for me, didn't preach. I didn't even choose the lifestyle for weight loss; I had medical reasons, but weight loss was a very welcome side effect. So same as for us...your calorie deficit makes you lose weight. Not eating a specific diet as Paleo
miriamtob wrote: » The op asked what our secret was, I answered what worked for me, didn't preach. I didn't even choose the lifestyle for weight loss; I had medical reasons, but weight loss was a very welcome side effect.
mynameisoliverqueen wrote: » Cutting added sugar virtually out of my diet and not listening to the "high post count" CLIQUE on the forums here, but following the advice of FULLY QUALIFIED Nutritionists and Dieticians.
asflatasapancake wrote: » kvanae wrote: » Tell me what has been successful for you on your weight loss journey!! This is individual opinion. If something works for someone, good for them. Unless something is known to be blatantly unhealthy(anorexia, bulimia, eating 400 calories a day, etc.) is there a need to challenge it? I think that not eating past a certain time is ridiculous. But if it helps someone stick to their calorie goal, more power to them. It works for them. That's the whole point of the thread, right?
kvanae wrote: » Tell me what has been successful for you on your weight loss journey!!
ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better! how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response? oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it....
miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better!
ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer....
miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye.
miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better! how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response? oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it.... Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes.
SconnieCat wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better! how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response? oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it.... Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes. Cauliflower gifs? I didn't even know those were a thing. Went to google... Not disappointed.
ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better! how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response? oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it.... Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes. funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling. so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following...
DirrtyH wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better! how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response? oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it.... Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes. funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling. so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following... Stop. You make it very difficult to be on your side.
SezxyStef wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: » fritomaster wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. you mean you restricted a bunch of "bad" foods and replaced them with lower calorie ones? Paleo had nothing to do with it… So I am curious what did you Paleo diet consist of? Raw meat, grubs, etc? Careful he ate only other humans for 6 months at the start. yeah and then he joined a calorie counting site. My diary is open and I usually have a pretty good deficit without much planning or effort. Don't assume you know why people joined the site. I joined and am sticking with it because I like the graphs, data, community and blog posts. Mine is open too...and I have a pretty good deficit without much planning or effort as well....and I eat all the foodz... Lack of effort/planning is not paleo...it's called knowing your body, your food and what you like. BTW anyone new to Paleo would not agree...it's hard to know what you can and can't eat as the goal posts are always moving....if you can point me in the direction of a definitive paleo food list I would appreciate it. Not joking as I am always up for extra education.
miriamtob wrote: » TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: » fritomaster wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. you mean you restricted a bunch of "bad" foods and replaced them with lower calorie ones? Paleo had nothing to do with it… So I am curious what did you Paleo diet consist of? Raw meat, grubs, etc? Careful he ate only other humans for 6 months at the start. yeah and then he joined a calorie counting site. My diary is open and I usually have a pretty good deficit without much planning or effort. Don't assume you know why people joined the site. I joined and am sticking with it because I like the graphs, data, community and blog posts.
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: » fritomaster wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. you mean you restricted a bunch of "bad" foods and replaced them with lower calorie ones? Paleo had nothing to do with it… So I am curious what did you Paleo diet consist of? Raw meat, grubs, etc? Careful he ate only other humans for 6 months at the start. yeah and then he joined a calorie counting site.
fritomaster wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. you mean you restricted a bunch of "bad" foods and replaced them with lower calorie ones? Paleo had nothing to do with it… So I am curious what did you Paleo diet consist of? Raw meat, grubs, etc? Careful he ate only other humans for 6 months at the start.
ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks. you mean you restricted a bunch of "bad" foods and replaced them with lower calorie ones? Paleo had nothing to do with it… So I am curious what did you Paleo diet consist of? Raw meat, grubs, etc?
miriamtob wrote: » I lost significant weight before I ever counted a calorie by choosing the the Paleo WOE. So you can "lol" away until your food scale breaks.
yopeeps025 wrote: » DirrtyH wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better! how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response? oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it.... Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes. funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling. so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following... Stop. You make it very difficult to be on your side. You don't know him. Stick around and you will see that he really does not care too much for who is on his side. What he does care about is facts and science.
erickirb wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » ndj1979 wrote: » miriamtob wrote: » Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye. the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo. sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"... When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer.... I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better! how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response? oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it.... Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes. funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling. so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following... If you want to see non-paleo food items go check out their diary yesterday. Unless this person thinks those things are Paleo???? Paleo can be a way to reach a caloric deficit, the caloric deficit is the "secret" to weight loss. Paleo would be a good answer if the OP asked for options of achieving a caloric deficit... then again almost anything would qualify if you counted calories and stayed under maintenance.