Is 1300 avg cal per day too little??

So I've been using Mfp for about a week now and after seeing my sugar and fat intake being 2-3 times the daily goal I reduced my intake of both to match the goal. However now I'm averaging about 1300 calories per day. I only eat raw fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds and workout daily for 30-60min. With these workouts I'm usually below my calorie goal by 500-900 calories. I don't feel hungry or unsatisfied and in fact I feel fuller most of the time but I wanted to make sure that the 1300 cal avg per day I've been hitting would affect my workouts or be detrimental to me in the long run

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I just took a peek at your diary. Based on the fact that you don’t weigh your fruit, veggies, or nuts, I’d like to point out that you’re probably eating more than you think. Frankly, I hope you’re getting more than 1,300, as that number is fairly low for a male. I would highly recommend you get a kitchen scale (cheap on amazon) and weigh everything. Nuts and fruit are particularly calorie-dense, and cups/generic sizes are generally poor approximations.

I’d also try to make sure you're getting enough protein. 1g/lb of lean body mass is a general recommendation, and protein is important to help hold on to muscle while you’re losing weight. To that end, weight training would also be beneficial.

Aside from that, your dietary choices are your own, so I won’t question why you choose a raw vegan diet.

Well alrighty than.

1300 calories is still to low, your TDEE is still over 2000 calories per day.

Which brings me to another question, if you've been doing this for 3 1/2 years, how much weight have you lost?

What is the long term impact of the original poster if he continues this tread?

I actually ordered a kitchen scale recently for that very reason. Also I haven't really lost much of any weight on this diet, I have a problem of overeating so even with this diet unless I calorie and nutrient count I gain weight

RemonS9X wrote: »

I actually ordered a kitchen scale recently for that very reason. Also I haven't really lost much of any weight on this diet, I have a problem of overeating so even with this diet unless I calorie and nutrient count I gain weight

I think that will really help. And I’d recommend you set a realistic and non-aggressive weight loss goal, so 1 lb/ week at most. This requires a daily deficit of 500 calories. Half a pound a week is even better, if you’re good and patient.

If you’re setting custom goals on MFP, I’d suggest using the calculator here to estimate how many calories you burn every day and figure out your caloric intake. With accurate tracking, the weight will definitely come off.

P.S. Okay, I can’t help myself: I want to respect your dietary choice, but I just hope you know it’s not necessary to lose weight. I was a vegetarian for almost a year in my youth because I thought it was better in every way - fortunately I now have the wisdom of age on my side (lol) and, in my view, moderation is all that really matters. I just hope you’re happy with your dietary choices and aren’t doing it because you think it’s the only way

jemhh wrote: »

bpetrosky wrote: »

Google TDEE Calculator and use it to estimate based on your age, weight, height and activity level what your base metabolic rate is. If you're trying to lose weight you should be targeting 500-750 below that number/day. It also helps to underestimate your activity level.

I think it's safe to say you're on the low side, but without knowing more I wouldn't guess what number you should be getting.

I don't get this. Why do we tell people who are new to trying MFP to screw up their calculations on purpose? Why don't we tell them to use the plan as written (i.e., estimate activity level as accurately as possible), try it a few weeks, and then make changes from there?

I do it because I wish someone had told me to do it when I first started. Estimating one thing led me to estimating other things, which did not help. Why estimate vaguely (are you MFP Active or MFP Sedentary?) when you can estimate more accurately with some of the better TDEE calculators? Or, if it is ok to vaguely estimate activity, what is so wrong with vaguely estimating portion sizes rather than weighing them to the gram?

Sorry for the derail, OP. I have nothing for ya, because better minds than mine have contributed real answers. I reckon you could use some more cals, but that's just opinion.

That's true, and I know this diet doesn't do much in the way of weight loss but I do feel better on it and I end up eating tons of veggies because of it, which is always good. In any case I'm definitely going to increase my calorie and protein intake to more respectable levels and begin including cooked beans and lentils to do so. Thank you all so much for your advice, I truly appreciate the help!!

You plan sounds awesome, and I’m happy to see you have such a positive attitude. I’m a HUGE fan of lentils. And lentils and rice apparently form a complete protein! Mujadara is one of my fave dishes, though it’s not raw. Anyway, best of luck to you

Emilia777 wrote: »

You plan sounds awesome, and I’m happy to see you have such a positive attitude. I’m a HUGE fan of lentils. And lentils and rice apparently form a complete protein! Mujadara is one of my fave dishes, though it’s not raw. Anyway, best of luck to you

One of my favorite dinner combinations. As a matter of fact, it's what I'm eating now.

toadhunter911 wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

You plan sounds awesome, and I’m happy to see you have such a positive attitude. I’m a HUGE fan of lentils. And lentils and rice apparently form a complete protein! Mujadara is one of my fave dishes, though it’s not raw. Anyway, best of luck to you

One of my favorite dinner combinations. As a matter of fact, it's what I'm eating now.

Nice!! I recently discovered it and it blew my mind

So yummy!

Yes

I think 1300 is too low for you

1300 a day is low and if your working out aswell thats a stupid amount.. You need 2000-2500 daily and get them from nuts, fish, meat, peanutt butter, protein shakes, eggs.... Whats your goal?.. I'm guessing u eat like 3x a day?.. Eat more often 5-6x daily small meals

jamiehynam2015 wrote: »

1300 a day is low and if your working out aswell thats a stupid amount.. You need 2000-2500 daily and get them from nuts, fish, meat, peanutt butter, protein shakes, eggs.... Whats your goal?.. I'm guessing u eat like 3x a day?.. Eat more often 5-6x daily small meals

You just threw out a random caloric intake range, it doesn't work like that.

RemonS9X wrote: »

I'm pretty much a raw vegan plus I don't eat anything processed, dried, and no grain. I've been doing this for about 3 1/2 years and haven't had any adverse effects. Also I have been carefully monitoring my calcium, iron, and potassium to make sure I'm getting healthy amounts. My profile is set to public if any of you would like to view my habits.

If that were true, you wouldn't be here.

Ms_LisaKay wrote: »

jemhh wrote: »

bpetrosky wrote: »

Google TDEE Calculator and use it to estimate based on your age, weight, height and activity level what your base metabolic rate is. If you're trying to lose weight you should be targeting 500-750 below that number/day. It also helps to underestimate your activity level.

I think it's safe to say you're on the low side, but without knowing more I wouldn't guess what number you should be getting.

I don't get this. Why do we tell people who are new to trying MFP to screw up their calculations on purpose? Why don't we tell them to use the plan as written (i.e., estimate activity level as accurately as possible), try it a few weeks, and then make changes from there?

I do it because I wish someone had told me to do it when I first started. Estimating one thing led me to estimating other things, which did not help. Why estimate vaguely (are you MFP Active or MFP Sedentary?) when you can estimate more accurately with some of the better TDEE calculators? Or, if it is ok to vaguely estimate activity, what is so wrong with vaguely estimating portion sizes rather than weighing them to the gram?

Sorry for the derail, OP. I have nothing for ya, because better minds than mine have contributed real answers. I reckon you could use some more cals, but that's just opinion.

you do realize that TDEE Calculators online are vague estimations as well right? Both of the most recommended here Scooby and IIFYM calculate my TDEE about 200-250 higher than it actually is...I know because I use my own data to calculate my TDEE which I maintained on for months.

MFP Sedentary vs Active is not vague
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)

MrM27 wrote: »

jamiehynam2015 wrote: »

1300 a day is low and if your working out aswell thats a stupid amount.. You need 2000-2500 daily and get them from nuts, fish, meat, peanutt butter, protein shakes, eggs.... Whats your goal?.. I'm guessing u eat like 3x a day?.. Eat more often 5-6x daily small meals

You just threw out a random caloric intake range, it doesn't work like that.

How does it work then? I'm pretty sure 2000 cals a day is needed minimum with daily exercise aswell he needs to bump it up

jamiehynam2015 wrote: »

MrM27 wrote: »

jamiehynam2015 wrote: »

1300 a day is low and if your working out aswell thats a stupid amount.. You need 2000-2500 daily and get them from nuts, fish, meat, peanutt butter, protein shakes, eggs.... Whats your goal?.. I'm guessing u eat like 3x a day?.. Eat more often 5-6x daily small meals

You just threw out a random caloric intake range, it doesn't work like that.

How does it work then? I'm pretty sure 2000 cals a day is needed minimum with daily exercise aswell he needs to bump it up

The minimum for who? People are different ages, weight, height and have activity levels. You can't just say what the minimum is across the board. I lose on 1900. I know guys that it takes 1800 and I also have 1 friend that loses on 2700. You can't just throw out generic numbers and apply it across the board.

jamiehynam2015 wrote: »

1300 a day is low and if your working out aswell thats a stupid amount.. You need 2000-2500 daily and get them from nuts, fish, meat, peanutt butter, protein shakes, eggs.... Whats your goal?.. I'm guessing u eat like 3x a day?.. Eat more often 5-6x daily small meals

He's vegan. As far as I know, fish, meat, and eggs are not vegan food choices.

The number of meals does not matter. Overall caloric intake vs. outgo matter.

RemonS9X wrote: »

I'm about 5'7 and weigh roughly 163 lbs

I'm your height and I weigh 170. I eat about 1800-2000.

Find your lean body mass and that should be your protein intake. A lil more is fine but nothing over 150. Get ur healthy fats, about 60-80g and the rest r carbs.

I believe u should be eating at least 1600-1800. I been where u are and its stressful because it gets to a point where u won't lose or gain anything. You'll be spinning ur wheels @RemonS9X

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